http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL- My son has a patent pending on a new and innovative design. It creates a closed-loop system to use water to power an internal combustion engine. It has two main parts: electrolysis unit in the front separates hydrogen and the oxygen from water; and, a cooling unit to take the exhaust gas (water vapor); compress it; then cool it into a liquid where it can be used again by the electrolysis unit. First prototype, PVC pipe and scrap metal, worked. His is now in 3rd yr engineering school. Engineering professor, former mechanical engineer with Ford Mtr. says it will work. My son has a patent pending on a new and innovative design. It creates a closed-loop system to use water to power an internal combustion engine. It has two main parts: electrolysis unit in the front separates hydrogen and the oxygen from water; and, a cooling unit to take the exhaust gas (water vapor); compress it; then cool it into a liquid where it can be used again by the electrolysis unit. First prototype, PVC pipe and scrap metal, worked. His is now in 3rd yr engineering school. Engineering professor, former mechanical engineer with Ford Mtr. says it will work. Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:56:44 -0500 comment http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment9257 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment9257 My son has a patent pending on a new and innovative design. It creates a closed-loop system to use water to power an internal combustion engine. It has two main parts: electrolysis unit in the front separates hydrogen and the oxygen from water; and, a cooling unit to take the exhaust gas (water vapor); compress it; then cool it into a liquid where it can be used again by the electrolysis unit. First prototype, PVC pipe and scrap metal, worked. His is now in 3rd yr engineering school. Engineering professor, former mechanical engineer with Ford Mtr. says it will work. Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:11:28 -0500 comment http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment9249 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment9249 My son has a patent pending on a new and innovative design. It creates a closed-loop system to use water to power an internal combustion engine. It has two main parts: electrolysis unit in the front separates hydrogen and the oxygen from water; and, a cooling unit to take the exhaust gas (water vapor); compress it; then cool it into a liquid where it can be used again by the electrolysis unit. First prototype, PVC pipe and scrap metal, worked. His is now in 3rd yr engineering school. Engineering professor, former mechanical engineer with Ford Mtr. says it will work. Mon, 12 May 2008 09:48:40 -0500 comment http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment7063 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment7063 I checked the website. they only fund projects in member institutions. Oklahoma CIty Community College is not a member thanks for the lead Tue, 06 May 2008 15:06:34 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1817 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1817 For funding, check out the National Collegiate Inventors and Innovators Alliance (NCIIA) (www.nciia.org). They give funds to entrepreneurial teams like yours for prototyping and moving towards commercialization. Tue, 06 May 2008 12:17:38 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1809 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1809 My son has a patent pending on a new and innovative design. It creates a closed-loop system to use water to power an internal combustion engine. It has two main parts: electrolysis unit in the front separates hydrogen and the oxygen from water; and, a cooling unit to take the exhaust gas (water vapor); compress it; then cool it into a liquid where it can be used again by the electrolysis unit. First prototype, PVC pipe and scrap metal, worked. His is now in 3rd yr engineering school. Engineering professor, former mechanical engineer with Ford Mtr. says it will work. Mon, 05 May 2008 09:14:29 -0500 comment http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6956 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6956 i got another question I'm really into the performance modification of internal combustion engines so what are the possibilities for enhancement of this system to make it faster could forced induction be put on it? Mon, 05 May 2008 09:04:59 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1792 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1792 My son has a patent pending on a new and innovative design. It creates a closed-loop system to use water to power an internal combustion engine. It has two main parts: electrolysis unit in the front separates hydrogen and the oxygen from water; and, a cooling unit to take the exhaust gas (water vapor); compress it; then cool it into a liquid where it can be used again by the electrolysis unit. First prototype, PVC pipe and scrap metal, worked. His is now in 3rd yr engineering school. Engineering professor, former mechanical engineer with Ford Mtr. says it will work. Mon, 05 May 2008 08:51:02 -0500 comment http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6954 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6954 Water can also be used to fuel lawnmower engines Sun, 04 May 2008 00:55:16 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1763 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1763 that's all i needed to know thanks for responding and yes it dose answer my question Fri, 02 May 2008 19:51:42 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1757 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1757 My son has a patent pending on a new and innovative design. It creates a closed-loop system to use water to power an internal combustion engine. It has two main parts: electrolysis unit in the front separates hydrogen and the oxygen from water; and, a cooling unit to take the exhaust gas (water vapor); compress it; then cool it into a liquid where it can be used again by the electrolysis unit. First prototype, PVC pipe and scrap metal, worked. His is now in 3rd yr engineering school. Engineering professor, former mechanical engineer with Ford Mtr. says it will work. Fri, 02 May 2008 11:55:27 -0500 comment http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6918 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6918 In brief response...the exhaust stroke does not have a spark so the mixture will clear out just like any other combusion source (gas or current hydrogen uses); the system is not designed to send water through the combustion process - it is is separated in the form of a gas - (similar to current uses of propane or even CNG); there are even some cars out there now with a switch that goes from hydrogen to gas - so that is not a technical problem; and, the freezing of the water mixture is no problem either - like up north now, use heaters or additives or whatever to keep it from freezing - we are looking at this also from the point of view of it working on aircraft above 30,000 - were water freezes. thanks for the questions and please let me know if this answers yours - the more questions we get the better the system design will improve Fri, 02 May 2008 11:53:03 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1752 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1752 Fri, 02 May 2008 11:47:17 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1751 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1751 i have a few questions 1 after the hydrogen and oxygen is detonated in the combustion chamber and steam and water vapor is left over how can u make sure it all leaves and doesn't short out the spark plug on the exhaust stroke or accumulate on the chamber also and 2 how can u assure that the water wont pass threw the piston rings and down into the lubrication system of the motor after detonation?? and 3 the water tank what are u going to do keep it from freezing in cold extreme weather? Thu, 01 May 2008 20:30:34 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1747 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1747 The advanced energy research organization is looking is looking for Ideas like this if it can be made to fit the fallowing standerds. AERO Award Program November 1, 2007 Advanced Energy Research Organization, Inc. (AERO) is offering an up-front $200,000 licensing award and minimum $5 million two year royalty program for a qualifying new energy breakthrough. The Charlottesville, VA energy research company is leading a world-wide search for promising, out-of-the-box inventors and scientists who have provable energy generation inventions that need support, further development and widespread public exposure. AERO CEO Steven M. Greer MD notes that, "Over the past 100 years, many major energy breakthroughs have withered on the vine, died with the inventor or been absorbed into secretive corporate or government programs. It is AERO's mission to see that these new technologies are protected, supported and massively disclosed to the public so that we can go beyond our current addiction to oil, gas and coal and begin a new, sustainable era in human history. AERO is uniquely qualified to see that such technological innovations make it to market. Our network includes 'A-list' celebrities, Nobel Prize winners, current and former heads of State and millions of people who follow our work. The inventor or team that has a qualifying system for energy generation will have the full force, support and protection of this unique, global network." The criteria for the Award are: The invention must be already built, robust and running reliably, with a net exportable (usable) power output of at least 1 kilowatt or greater. The system must use no power from the power grid and if batteries or capacitors are used, they must remain fully charged. The system must create no greenhouse gases or other polluting emissions and must be a closed loop system (that is, the output energy is sufficient to run the energy needs of the system and also provide the minimum 1 kilowatt of usable net power.) If it is a water-to-fuel system, the system must be able to electrolyze water into hydrogen and oxygen to create enough on-demand fuel to run the system (again, closed-loop) and create the minimum 1 kilowatt of net usable power. The system must be universal in its application and capable of working at any location. Solar, wind, geothermal, and tidal systems are excluded from the award because they are typically location sensitive and already exist. The inventor must be willing to license the system to AERO, Inc. The system must be able to pass performance and efficiency testing by three independent scientific groups and be fully reproducible from plans by an independent third party (AERO will sign a non-disclosure agreement with the inventor(s) as needed to assure confidentiality.) The system must not use radioactive materials or other materials that are an environmental hazard or biohazard. The inventor must be willing to bring the system to Virginia to be tested and this testing must be transparent and open (no hidden "black box" tests). The winning inventor or team will receive $200,000 up-front as a licensing award (see our sample licensing agreement) and will be guaranteed a minimum of $5 million in royalty payments within two years of the creation of a manufacture-ready, beta-tested system. If the current prototype needs further R and D to attain manufacture, UL listed readiness, AERO will provide the support to reach this state-of-the-art. I think it has potental as a recharger for the hidrogen fuled car but would strongly suggest "do the math" befort you spend thousands on hardwhere. You have my Voat and if you like my advice I would ask you to voat for Practical Solar. Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:31:29 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1665 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1665 Kevin's professor says, in part: "I was a product design engineer and designer at Ford Motor Company ... Therefore, given my background and knowledge of the basic requirements on the operation of internal combustion engines, it is my considered opinion that there is every reason to believe that Kevin’s system should be viable, efficient, and economic to produce. In addition, once the mechanics of modifications of different types of internal combustion engines (for example, stationary or mobile; single or multiple cylinders; two or four cycle; etc.) the system appears to be very adaptable to mass production that would substantially reduce the price and deliverability of the system to different markets." My doctorate is in anthropology, therefore, I have no basis to comment on his qualifications. However, I am involved in a number of energy related projects, both conventional and alternative (like algae biodiesel) so, I do understand part of the technological innovation that Kevin has created. thanks for your continued interest in this project, maybe we can collaborate at some time on our shared mutual interest. After the first of the month, we might have another major break through in alternative energy systems ... all we can do is hope for the best for our shared world. thanks again Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:22:41 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1661 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1661 My son has a patent pending on a new and innovative design. It creates a closed-loop system to use water to power an internal combustion engine. It has two main parts: electrolysis unit in the front separates hydrogen and the oxygen from water; and, a cooling unit to take the exhaust gas (water vapor); compress it; then cool it into a liquid where it can be used again by the electrolysis unit. First prototype, PVC pipe and scrap metal, worked. His is now in 3rd yr engineering school. Engineering professor, former mechanical engineer with Ford Mtr. says it will work. Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:18:45 -0500 comment http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6780 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6780 Well I shouldn't have said "theoretical maximum efficiency of 50%". I meant current maximum efficiency. If that efficiency can be raised then it may prove to be useful. Although, if hydrogen combustion is anything like gasoline, the efficiency will need to be improved as well. Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:34:00 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1648 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1648 Kevin has taken care of both those situations. In the philosophy of science terms: I guess he proved that there is a theoretical maximum efficiency - that is it is only a theory - not a fact thanks Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:44:43 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1630 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1630 My son has a patent pending on a new and innovative design. It creates a closed-loop system to use water to power an internal combustion engine. It has two main parts: electrolysis unit in the front separates hydrogen and the oxygen from water; and, a cooling unit to take the exhaust gas (water vapor); compress it; then cool it into a liquid where it can be used again by the electrolysis unit. First prototype, PVC pipe and scrap metal, worked. His is now in 3rd yr engineering school. Engineering professor, former mechanical engineer with Ford Mtr. says it will work. Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:43:09 -0500 comment http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6746 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#comment6746 The problem is electrolysis has a theoretical maximum efficiency of 50%. The electricity required for this system is not part of the closed loop. It would be better spent on an electric motor. Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:31:15 -0500 advice http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1586 http://ideablob.com/ideas/rss/1477-HYDROGEN-REGENERATION-INTERNAL-#advice1586